{"id":14790,"date":"2025-11-04T08:40:38","date_gmt":"2025-11-04T08:40:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/?p=14790"},"modified":"2025-11-04T08:40:39","modified_gmt":"2025-11-04T08:40:39","slug":"s4-e3-salena-godden","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/2025\/11\/04\/s4-e3-salena-godden\/","title":{"rendered":"s4 e3 | Salena godden"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Her poems are gritty and fierce, and she is a bold and fearless author, memoirist, broadcaster and poet of Jamaican-Irish heritage. Salena Godden and Yomi get to grips in an intimate conversation around the duality of the artist &#8211; from writing monster to gigging monster, and the solitude of creation against the performance on stage. She performs her poem \u2018Our Anarchy\u2019 &#8211; a poem that asks us feel deeply, resist, and reassemble what\u2019s been broken. This episode explores the emotional cost of creativity and the challenge of writing from a place of grief and rage. Together, they watch Maya Angelou\u2019s \u2018We Wear the Mask\u2019, a piece about how something simple, like a smile, can hide so much pain and fear in the face of oppression.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Watch<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/youtu.be\/Od1pnFP_bJM\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Listen<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<iframe title=\"S4 EP 3 | Salena Godden\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"300\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:300px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?from=embed&#038;i=n6p5u-19b1aff-pb&#038;square=1&#038;share=1&#038;download=0&#038;fonts=Arial&#038;skin=1b1b1b&#038;font-color=auto&#038;rtl=0&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=1&#038;size=300\" loading=\"lazy\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Read<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Our Anarchy &#8211; Salena Godden<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m daydreaming, how I might slow down and mellow<br>with age and write easy poetry about the happy little<br>dog on my knee and the pale lavender sky and the<br>soft snow. How maybe, one day, I will stop writing<br>so much protest poetry, stories soaked in trauma and<br>rooted in our grief, our anarchy, our hopes for<br>humanity, but then I remember I live and write in<br>the 2020s and the world is frightening and I am me<br>and here we are. Still, I often wonder what poems<br>we\u2019d write in a more peaceful time, in another reality,<br>another era; work made from a place of freedom<br>and creativity and not in response or defence, nor<br>in anger or fear. Oh my loves, what dreams we dare<br>to dream, what beautiful books we write. Imagine<br>what art could look like, our theatre and music, what<br>lyrics we\u2019d sing that were about anything but this<br>brutal and divided world. Oh, to create in a safe and<br>gentle space, a kind and listening world. Oh, to write<br>poems about how I love the happy little black dog,<br>so warm, sleeping on my lap, our breath rising and<br>falling together, the sky outside my window, lilac<br>and dove-blue, soft snow falling, and feel that love<br>and peace within me, how wonderful it would be to<br>live just like this, and write without a shadow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Salena Godden and Yomi get to grips in an intimate conversation around the duality of the artist &#8211; from writing monster to gigging monster, and the solitude of creation against the performance on stage.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":14793,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"none","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_surecart_dashboard_logo_width":"180px","_surecart_dashboard_show_logo":true,"_surecart_dashboard_navigation_orders":true,"_surecart_dashboard_navigation_invoices":true,"_surecart_dashboard_navigation_subscriptions":true,"_surecart_dashboard_navigation_downloads":true,"_surecart_dashboard_navigation_billing":true,"_surecart_dashboard_navigation_account":true,"_kad_blocks_custom_css":"","_kad_blocks_head_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_body_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_footer_custom_js":"","_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"_kad_post_classname":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[49],"tags":[142,148],"article_type":[],"class_list":["post-14790","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-as","tag-listen","tag-s4"],"acf":[],"taxonomy_info":{"category":[{"value":49,"label":"A+S"}],"post_tag":[{"value":142,"label":"Listen"},{"value":148,"label":"Season 4"}]},"featured_image_src_large":["https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/3-SG-1024x1024.png",1024,1024,true],"author_info":{"display_name":"Fiona Simpson","author_link":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/author\/fiona\/"},"comment_info":0,"category_info":[{"term_id":49,"name":"A+S","slug":"as","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":49,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":192,"filter":"raw","term_order":"0","cat_ID":49,"category_count":192,"category_description":"","cat_name":"A+S","category_nicename":"as","category_parent":0}],"tag_info":[{"term_id":142,"name":"Listen","slug":"listen","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":142,"taxonomy":"post_tag","description":"","parent":0,"count":48,"filter":"raw","term_order":"0"},{"term_id":148,"name":"Season 4","slug":"s4","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":148,"taxonomy":"post_tag","description":"","parent":0,"count":10,"filter":"raw","term_order":"0"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14790","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14790"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14790\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14804,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14790\/revisions\/14804"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14793"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14790"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14790"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14790"},{"taxonomy":"article_type","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/applesandsnakes.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/article_type?post=14790"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}